the emergency room is counterproductive and for the people about the takers, this is a massive hidden tax. we wind up paying for that. that's a reason why health care costs so much. >> right, i agree with you and support the principles of obama care and more frustrated that the system failed allowing perhaps the whole thing to collapse. we don't know how it will play out but the very people they need to get enrolled, the young people that are healthy now that may have 30, 40, 50 years, they are the ones they have to get. if they are turned away from this -- >> first of all, every program of this size was a headache at first. so was bush's medicare prescription drug program for the old folks. remember that, hey, free viagra, have a boner on george bush. remember me at the polls. they didn't like that at first, now it's popular. s is, medicare, all these programs have these kind on problems when you start with them. but the reason why it's going to work is women. yes, young men do not want to sign up because they think they are invincible. women get it. women are a little more complicated.